Creeping Speedwell at Watson, ACT
Identification history
| Veronica persica | 31 Aug 2023 | Tapirlord | ||
| Veronica calycina | 30 Aug 2023 | abread111 |
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among other plants and dead leaves on the verge
6 comments
abread111
wrote:
31 Aug 2023
I suppose you are correct and its a weed, but I'd rather the id relied on something other than its position close to the road... the verge does harbour some local native plants which survive in suburbia.
Tapirlord
wrote:
1 Sep 2023
I mean alternatively you could off the leaf bases (Should be truncate in V.calycina) or the fact is flowering now (V.calcyina won't start till mid October on the tablelands), Flowers are also solitary and they are often on racemes in V.calycina. But the easiest method of seperation is the habitat, V.persica loves distrubed areas and is common on roadsides at this time of year, V.calycina occurs in dry forest or in taller montane forest and appears to need this high quality habitat. Some local natives can survive on disturbed and nutrient rich urban soils, but not all of them, and I've yet to see V.calycina added to this category.
abread111
wrote:
1 Sep 2023
And does V. persica never go bush? Many of the V. calycina sightings on CNM have solitary flowers, and the leaf base shape seems quite variable. Flowering time includes a tick for August for calycina, as well as later in October/November. So I'm not entirely convinced, but I'm about to go and dig it out.
Tapirlord
wrote:
1 Sep 2023
Never is a strong word, but yes rarely. It does seem to do best on nutrient rich soils. I should clarify that V.calycina can have a single flower, but may have racemes up to 10 (check out Betty's key). The tick from August is unrealiable I imagine, it either came from a misID or is a contributor error. I wouldn't rely on that data any more than as a general indicator. When you remove it, you will find the plant is a non-stoloniferous annual.
abread111
wrote:
1 Sep 2023
Yes, it was non-stoloniferous and I found a patch of hundreds of small non-flowering plants in a carpet where obviously a plant had seeded last year, definitely not something I want in the garden or on the verge! The flowering plant had some immature fruits which are very wide, as expected for V. persica. See the new pic I've added.
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Location information
- Coordinates 149.150838-35.238647
- Altitude 614.0m
- Places Watson, ACT
Sighting information
- 1 Abundance
- 1 Sep 2023 03:41 PM Recorded on
- abread111 Recorded by
Additional information
- Less than 10cm Plant height
- True In flower
Species information
- Veronica persica Scientific name
- Creeping Speedwell Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Exotic
- Minor Weed or Pest
- Up to 767m Recorded at altitude
- Machine learning
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In flower
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