Garrha sincerella at Melba, ACT
Identification history
| Garrha sincerella | 11 Feb 2021 | donhe | ||
| Garrha sincerella | 11 Feb 2021 | ibaird | ||
| Garrha phoenopis | 23 Jan 2021 | ibaird | ||
| Unidentified | 23 Jan 2021 | kasiaaus |
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3 comments
ibaird
wrote:
11 Feb 2021
Should this be G. sincerella? If so there are others ID'd as G phoenopis which are open to question.
donhe
wrote:
11 Feb 2021
My understanding from looking at BOLD photos is that
G. sincerella has rusty brown forewings, each with either a wide sometimes incomplete transverse pale band, or random fragmented pale markings (sexual dimorphism?).
G. phoenopis has off-white forewings, which display a rusty brown 'Y' shape when the wings are closed.
I only trust BOLD.
I basically do not trust ALA or iNaturalist identifications.
What do you reckon?
G. sincerella has rusty brown forewings, each with either a wide sometimes incomplete transverse pale band, or random fragmented pale markings (sexual dimorphism?).
G. phoenopis has off-white forewings, which display a rusty brown 'Y' shape when the wings are closed.
I only trust BOLD.
I basically do not trust ALA or iNaturalist identifications.
What do you reckon?
ibaird
wrote:
11 Feb 2021
There are a few more I think in G. phoenopis on CNM which are arguably G. sincerella, now that I am more aware of that species!. ALA relies on the peer review of others for ID. BOLD has its limitations too. The numerical taxonomy done is on a limited basis on selected specimens from collections only. Sometimes the cut-off point for numerical analysis appears somewhat arbitrary. Our task is to identify moths from life. That's difficult sometimes when BOLD only illustrates set museum specimens which are not fresh and fade and look very different from a live specimen of the same species. On the ALA and iNaturalist one sometimes also needs to take account of what the source of data is who is doing the identifying.
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Location information
- Coordinates 149.049815-35.208638
- Altitude 541.0m
- Places Melba, ACT
Sighting information
- 1 - 3 Abundance
- 12 Jan 2021 12:16 AM Recorded on
- kasiaaus Recorded by
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- 12mm to 25mm Animal size
Species information
- Garrha sincerella Scientific name
- Garrha sincerella Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-Invasive
- Up to 597.2m Recorded at altitude
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