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Yesterday
Martin. Thank you .

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Yesterday
Good points! I'll keep an eye out for flowering.

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Yesterday
From awesome Nan and Hugh Nicholson - Australian Rainforest Plants:
→ https://www.facebook.com/share/16Qtjr5YFo/

Patience for flowering never hurts any body !

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Yesterday
Shortest possible synopsis reply for generic–purposes applying to all identifications' confirmations :

I walked out of iNat in disgust at its corruption of systematic knowledges regarding nature, including iNat company's thinly veiled bio-informatics (silicon valley AI neo-colonialisms') motivation,
iNat —nature-wash— not really nature motivated any more than tokenism, nature–commodification, usual USA over-reach and money seeking from fooled genuine nature lovers' volunteers .
I communicated extensively with iNat staff, and many many volunteers, including many colleagues' scientists including botanists and ecologists.
Walking out of iNat in disgust i wear as a badge of honouring nature.

In 2010, hundreds of us systematic knowledge work employees of the Murray–Darling Basin Authority walked out in disgust for similar reasons regarding the water requirements of, the ecosystems ie. nature, the peoples of, the Murray–Darling Basin.

I hope you genuinely understand.

Hence:
Well of course i can do a lot more identifications and confirmations of identifications when i am in person with (any) the live plant in hand, rather than photographs per se.
As you do here.

In short cliche version:
The standard walked past was the standard accepted.

I keep standing up against low standards. I ask all to keep standing up against low standards.
If standards do not rise to the long term, genuinely sustainable, systematic knowledges' standards
(not green-wash and not nature-wash and not sustainability-wash);
then after the diligence of standing up communicating has been completed,
we who keep standing up for standards,
walk out (in disgust).

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Yesterday
Good morning @JasonPStewartNMsnc2016.

I think I can key it out to Parsonsia straminea using the PlantNet key (https://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=gn&name=Parsonsia)

There is one step that requires flowers, but I think I can bypass it using the location. My steps are:

-1- Leaves on adult plants usually less than 8 times as long as wide. (the leaves measure 2.5 cm x 10 cm) – 2
-2- Leaves usually more than 4.5 cm long, margins neither crisped nor toothed – 3
-3- apex of leaves mostly gradually acute or acuminate (also P. lanceolata has secondary veins visible but not prominent, reticulum invisible -which is not the case here). – 4
-4- Leaves glabrous or with inconspicuous sparse fine hairs on lower surface – 8
-8- Leaves with the secondary veins (and often some smaller veins) distinct on lower surface; stems without discrete corky outgrowths – 9
-9- I don’t corolla tubes to check BUT, both species listed under 10 are very distant from where I am. I’m therefore comfortable looking at 11.
-11- Leaves finely reticulate on both surfaces - Parsonsia straminea

What do you think?
All the best, Martin

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