Philobota (genus)

Unidentified Philobota genus moths at Bredbo, NSW

Philobota (genus) at Bredbo, NSW - 30 Oct 2024
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Philobota (genus) 2 Nov 2024 donhe
Elachista sp (Elachistidae, Elachistinae) 31 Oct 2024 WendyEM
Philobota (genus) 31 Oct 2024 ibaird
Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth 30 Oct 2024 DianneClarke

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12 comments

donhe wrote:
   31 Oct 2024
The thickened ends of the antennae must indicate something ?
ibaird wrote:
   31 Oct 2024
See sighting No. 4429508
WendyEM wrote:
   31 Oct 2024
https://bold-au.hobern.net/taxon.php?taxid=6588
https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/taxa/173675-Elachista/browse_photos
lack of upstanding fringe may not support this ?
various moths have that 'eye cap' i.e. thickening at base of antennae that covers eye when at rest. I have photographed some doozies. Interestingly Leptozestis sp (which I was just commenting on) is also in this family - Elachistidae
ibaird wrote:
   31 Oct 2024
I have not found an image from life which matches this moth within Elachista (genus).
donhe wrote:
   31 Oct 2024
4429508 has no thickened antennae tips.
ibaird wrote:
   31 Oct 2024
Are the antennae thickened or just out of focus?
DianneClarke wrote:
   31 Oct 2024
My guess is movement and slow shutter speed.
donhe wrote:
   1 Nov 2024
Elachista aposematica?
ibaird wrote:
   1 Nov 2024
Perhaps Don, but the set specimen photos on line I've found on line don't help me much. Have you a photo from life of this adult species?
donhe wrote:
   2 Nov 2024
might be a photo in Lauri Kaila's Elachistine Moths of Australia ?
WendyEM wrote:
   2 Nov 2024
As far as I can see, the only live shots in that book (Mon Vol. 11, CSIRO) are of larvae. There are many moths figured but they are all pinned specimens. I did notice that ~ 4 yrs ago Lauri Kaila contributed to ID of Research Grade shots on iNat where there are only 5 Elachista species and one new species confirmed. A question I would have for Lauri or other experienced researchers is - can a moth like this, when at rest (more tightly rolls its wings), pull down the long fringe extending from the tornus so that is not apparent or extends in the line of the body rather than sticking up at right angles?
ibaird wrote:
   2 Nov 2024
I think the similarity of this sighting photo with Sighting No 4429508 is quite strong. but the suggested ID of 'Philobota (genus)' is not certain.

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