Honey Locust, Thorny Locust at Watson Green Space
Identification history
| Gleditsia triacanthos | 23 Feb 2024 | abread111 | ||
| Indigofera australis subsp. australis | 23 Feb 2024 | CarbonAI | ||
| Gleditsia triacanthos | 23 Feb 2024 | abread111 |
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long pods, pinnate leaves, in a planted bed, which contains a lot of weeds, blackberry (sprayed), Vinca...
9 comments
abread111
wrote:
23 Feb 2024
@Tapirlord can you change the description for this species please, to say "pinnate or bipinnate leaves" as in PlantNet
Mike
wrote:
24 Feb 2024
Three varieties of Gleditsia triacanthos are listed in ACT Infrastructure Guide 25, Plant Species for Urban Landscape Projects. These are supposedly thornless, but at least one can produce thorny suckers or seedlings.
waltraud
wrote:
24 Feb 2024
yes Barb, I saw 2 Gleditsia trees growing side by side on my way to the Gym the other day; both of same size, one with and one without pods ...
Those planted close to Hackett shopping center and the Fair about 10+years ago old, have (so far?) no pods. I still wonder whether there are sterile cultivars around...
Those planted close to Hackett shopping center and the Fair about 10+years ago old, have (so far?) no pods. I still wonder whether there are sterile cultivars around...
abread111
wrote:
24 Feb 2024
@Mike
See https://caws.org.nz/PPQ8910/PPQ%2009-3%20pp101-105%20Csurhes.pdf a paper from 10 years ago which explains that the thornless varieties still produce a proportion of seedlings with thorns.
Now may be a good time to lobby TCCS to remove sleeper weeds like this one from MIS25. The Auditor has released a report with recommendation 1 being to review MIS25 with focus on climate ready species, but other issues of potential invasiveness could no doubt be included in the review if/when it is carried out.
See https://caws.org.nz/PPQ8910/PPQ%2009-3%20pp101-105%20Csurhes.pdf a paper from 10 years ago which explains that the thornless varieties still produce a proportion of seedlings with thorns.
Now may be a good time to lobby TCCS to remove sleeper weeds like this one from MIS25. The Auditor has released a report with recommendation 1 being to review MIS25 with focus on climate ready species, but other issues of potential invasiveness could no doubt be included in the review if/when it is carried out.
abread111
wrote:
24 Feb 2024
Waltraud, there is at least one sterile variety, Moraine, actually a male clone. It is included in the list of varieties in https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/gleditsia_triacanthos.htm but the info that it is sterile comes from European sources when I did a Google search. It is not in MIS25 - too large for street planting and subject to branch break in wind.
waltraud
wrote:
25 Feb 2024
There is an Invasive Plants Working Group meeting coming up 4th April - I was told that I'm not allowed to attend because ParkCare groups have one rep - perhaps the forum is the right place to bring this topic up. Im lobbying already so many topics that I feel a bit overwhelmed I must say...
Mike
wrote:
25 Feb 2024
Last year @MichaelMulvaney set up a list of sleeper weeds Acacia cognata with the aim of getting these removed from planting lists. I put some of my sightings in a collection that anyone can add to. I think there are many other plants that we know are becoming invasive. Gleditsia triacanthos is listed as High Priority in the ACT List of naturalised and doubtfully naturalised alien plants, and is a species in Field Maps.
MichaelMulvaney
wrote:
25 Feb 2024
Thanks Waltraud - FOG has representatives at the weeds working group and has raised sleeper weeds previously and got some action - we will keep at it.
Location information
- Coordinates 149.156389-35.233445
- Altitude 614.0m
- Maps Watson Green Space
- Places Watson, ACT
Sighting information
- 1 Abundance
- 23 Feb 2024 05:19 PM Recorded on
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abread111 Canberra & Southern Tablelands NatureMapr Gleditsia triacanthos Peas Plants
Additional information
- 1 metre to 5 metres Plant height
Species information
- Gleditsia triacanthos Scientific name
- Honey Locust, Thorny Locust Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Exotic
- Major weed or pest
- Up to 729m Recorded at altitude
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In flower
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