Lepidoptera unclassified IMMATURE
caterpillar or pupa or cocoon at Mount Majura
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| Lepidoptera unclassified IMMATURE | donhe | 9 Dec 2023 | |
| Lepidoptera unclassified IMMATURE | donhe | 7 Dec 2023 | |
| Psychidae (family) IMMATURE | ibaird | 27 Nov 2023 | |
| Unverified | abread111 | 27 Nov 2023 |
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11 comments
27 Nov 2023
@abread111 : hope you can rear it and get an adult moth for identification. I recall no evidence of Clania sp. feeding on flowers, so it might even be a Heliocosma group species.
27 Nov 2023
Only 7% Aussie moth species have known caterpillars. The other 93% of caterpillar species are unidentifiable unless you rear them to an adult, The caterpillar death rate in the wild is over 99%, so for any caterpillar found in the wild : please be prepared to take into protective custody for rearing to identify it.
28 Nov 2023
Could it be a member of Trichoptera rather than Lepidoptera? the larvae of the 2 species of the Trichoptera genus Enoicycla in Europe are not aquatic....
28 Nov 2023
I think there is no chance to find it again. And how to rear? larvae of Trichoptera are to my knowledge predators. Caterpillars are comparable easy: a good bet would be to feed them with the plant on which they are found.
6 Dec 2023
I failed in my attempt to capture this grub, but am now prepared to tackle rearing similar unusual insects.
8 Dec 2023
This is listed as ~1 cm long.
So this could be a young Clania or Oecobia (Tinioidea) or a Heliocosma (Tortricoidea) .
4526915 is much larger : ~3 cms long, which is too large for a Heliocosma sp.,
so it was only possibly Clania or Oecobia.
So I think that the best we do is classify this sighting as 'immature Lepidoptera' unless it can be reared to a larger lava, or better still an adult.
Sorry Ian: I clicked the wrong thing.
So this could be a young Clania or Oecobia (Tinioidea) or a Heliocosma (Tortricoidea) .
4526915 is much larger : ~3 cms long, which is too large for a Heliocosma sp.,
so it was only possibly Clania or Oecobia.
So I think that the best we do is classify this sighting as 'immature Lepidoptera' unless it can be reared to a larger lava, or better still an adult.
Sorry Ian: I clicked the wrong thing.
8 Dec 2023
I am guessing Alison saw a range of sizes in the 100 or so that she saw at The Pinnacle. I was comparing the size of the one I saw to the size of the paper daisy Sticky Everlasting "petal", and it would not be more than about 1 cm long, the same as shown in her second photo with the insect on the paper daisy flower.
9 Dec 2023
It is small enough to be a Heliocosma group species. so I agree with 'immature Lepidoptera', but Ian's suggestion disappeared.
Location information
- Coordinates 149.169187-35.228332
- Altitude 653.0m
- Places Watson, ACT
Sighting information
- 1 Abundance
- 27 Nov 2023 11:07 AM Recorded on
- abread111 Recorded by
- Golden Everlasting Associated plant
- 5mm to 12mm Animal size
- Alive / healthy Animal health
- Yes Insect on a flower
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- Lepidoptera unclassified IMMATURE Scientific name
- caterpillar or pupa or cocoon Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Up to 1191m Recorded at altitude
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Lepidoptera sp.
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