Insects
Moths (Lepidoptera)
Other moths
Sighting 4260294

Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth

Unidentified - Moth at Ainslie, ACT

Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth at Ainslie, ACT - 20 May 2020
Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth at Ainslie, ACT - 20 May 2020
Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth at Ainslie, ACT - 20 May 2020
Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth at Ainslie, ACT - 20 May 2020
Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth at Ainslie, ACT - 20 May 2020
Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth at Ainslie, ACT - 20 May 2020
Request use of media

Identification history

Smyriodes undescribed species nr aplectaria 7 Jan 2022 donhe
Lepidoptera unclassified ADULT moth 22 Dec 2020 GlennCocking
Uraba lugens 21 May 2020 jb2602

Identify this sighting

Please Login or Register to identify this sighting.

15 comments

jb2602 wrote:
   21 May 2020
Male, feather antennae and smaller than the female
ibaird wrote:
   21 May 2020
Not sure this is U. lugens. There is a distinct scallop patterned margin to the forewings and a short mid line at each forewing tip which I can't see in our other U. lugens specimens.
donhe wrote:
   21 May 2020
The shape and posture look good to me for Nolinae, but I think the shapes of the zigzag transverse lines, and the absence of the smoothly curved dark central band, look wrong for Uraba lugens.
GlennCocking wrote:
   27 May 2020
Could it be an extremely plain Dysbatus specimen? I have seen some without the usual transverse wiggly lines, and the line towards the fw tip the Ian points to would satisfy Dysbatus. John, were the originals as grey as these photos rather than a little brown? Do you have an upperside photo of the male?
jb2602 wrote:
   27 May 2020
These photos are the dorsal and ventral side of the same moth. It has feather antennae and so I assume it's a male. My understanding is that a female U. lugens is quite a bit longer than the male (No female was sighted on the night). I really don't know what it is but thought that a male U. lugens was a possibility.
jb2602 wrote:
   27 May 2020
The photos were taken close up with a 100mm macro lens with a ring flash, slightly off centre to avoid reflection and so should be fairly accurate.
jb2602 wrote:
   27 May 2020
What about Nola desmotes?
ibaird wrote:
   27 May 2020
I say not N. desmotes because of the scallop patterned margin to the forewings and a short mid line at each forewing tip which no images of that species on the ALA show.
jb2602 wrote:
   27 May 2020
Also N. desmotes does not have feather antennae. Is that the case for all Nola?
GlennCocking wrote:
   18 Oct 2020
Nola males generally have finely bipectinate or hairy antennae. This branches on this one are much stronger. I think they also look unipectinate, which matches Dysbatus. But that would still be a speculative identification.
donhe wrote:
   18 Oct 2020
I think that the double arch in the basal line is inconsistent with Dysbatus, and the line at the forewing tip is inconsistent with most Nola. Groan.
ElluraSanctuary wrote:
   7 Jan 2022
This has bipectinate antennae, you can just make it out on the ventral shot if you zoom in.
Is it not a faded Smyriodes trigramma? Looks close to ours. We *think* we've had a number of them and progressive variations from the strong to "faded" has the longitudinal lines at the back of our faded one; S4 in particular. :
www.ellura.info/Lepidoptera.html#Smyriodes-trigramma
www.ellura.info/Insect/Moth/DSC06582E-Stippled-Line-moth-Smyriodes-trigramma--S4.html
We are in SA, so hope it's ok to share our obs like this
ibaird wrote:
   7 Jan 2022
Hi, Ellura Sanctuary. You are welcome to share you views etc, re identification. We have grouped together probably three Smyriodes species to gether in one category : ie. ''Smyriodes undescribed species nr aplectaria' ( - the undescribed species being the most common here). However, the short mid-line on the forewing tip either side concerns me an seems inconsistent with Smyriodes (genus).
jb2602 wrote:
   7 Jan 2022
Thank you all very much for the input, I have added a detail of an antenna if that helps.
ElluraSanctuary wrote:
   7 Jan 2022
Much easier to see the bi-pectinations now John, nice job.
No prob's Ian. I agree the line on the wing tip is an issue, but thought it worth raising the thought.
I'll have to reconsider mine now ;-)
Cheers
Brett

Please Login or Register to comment.

Location information

Sighting information

Additional information

  • 12mm to 25mm Animal size

Species information

Record quality

  • Images or audio
  • More than one media file
  • Verified by an expert moderator
  • Nearby sighting(s) of same species
  • GPS evidence of location
  • Description
  • Additional attributes
1,905,479 sightings of 21,334 species from 13,137 contributors
CCA 3.0 | privacy
We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of this land and acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present.