Celmisia tomentella

Common Snow Daisy at Cotter River, ACT

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Identification history

Celmisia tomentella	25 Jul 2023	Tapirlord
Celmisia sp.	22 Jan 2016	MichaelMulvaney
Unidentified	11 Jan 2016	KenT

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4 comments

BettyDonWood wrote:

12 Jan 2016

You need to look at the seeds to be sure it is not one of the Celmisia asteliifolia complex (C. costiniana, C. pugioniformis, C. tomentella). The taxonomy of C; longifolia is a mess. C; longifolia in the strict sense only occurs west of Sydney. What was C. longifolia in the ACT is Celmisia sp. Pulchella (M.Gray & C.Totterdell 7079). This is described in Flora of the ACT. I don't seem to have kept the email from Dane Wimbush that told me this. If my memory serves me right the money ran out before the research needed to publish a formal name for this species could be done.

KenT wrote:

13 Jan 2016

Thanks Betty, I had relied on both the Flora of the ACT and Edition1 of Flora of NSW for this. In the Flora of NSW the species in the C. asteliifolia complex were said to occur chiefly south of the Kosciusko region, while those in the C. longifolia complex occur from Newnes to Kosciusko. I take it that those geographic boundaries are now not correct. Hope to get back up this site near Mt Ginini in a few weeks when there might be seeds on these plants, it was too early this trip.

KenT wrote:

21 Jan 2016

Hi Betty, I've included an image of some seeds and it doesn't seem to be C. longifolia. I notice the online Flora of Victoria has a key to the three other species but I still need more characters so that will have to await a further trip towards the later half of February.

BettyDonWood wrote:

21 Jan 2016

It is a pig of a key. I got fooled by the character "fleshy rhizome" in Flora of NSW and thought that the plants we photographed did not have rhizomes. At least VicFlora says they are thin. They are almost thread-like. Thus both the Celmisia's in Flowers of the ACT and Region are C. tomentella. I hope you have your collecting permit. You will need it.

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