Picris angustifolia subsp. merxmuelleri

Kosciuszko National Park, NSW

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	Picris angustifolia subsp. merxmuelleri	29 Nov 2018	MichaelMulvaney
	Taraxacum aristum	1 Sep 2018	JanetRussell

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Photos of 2 separate plants

13 comments

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

30 Nov 2018

Rainer Rehwinkel sent me an email stating
I posted Janet’s pics (thank you Janet😀) on the NSW Plant Identification Facebook site (see: https://www.facebook.com/groups/332752936930981/)and today received confirmation that it clearly isn’t the Taraxacum, with the suggestion it might be a Picris angustifolia. Having recently seen this species, it didn’t gel for me at the time, until I realised that there are two local subspecies. I had seed subsp. angustifolia, but when I looked up the other subspecies, that one fits the pics that Janet sent!

I am fairly confident that what we have is Picris angustifolia subsp. merxmuelleri.

See: http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=in&name=Picris~angustifolia+subsp.~merxmuelleri

JanetRussell wrote:

30 Nov 2018

I accept the ID but I have to say I cannot see that is this species.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

30 Nov 2018

Sorry Janet - I don't know either or the species well so don't feel that i can make a strong call either way

JanetRussell wrote:

30 Nov 2018

My flower has more buds yet to open - the flowers don't seem to have much of a stem. I am not familiar with the two species either.

BettyDonWood wrote:

30 Nov 2018

It is pretty aberrant. I have only seen it once and the general appearance of the plant (habit) was quite different.
https://keys.lucidcentral.org/keys/v3/plants_se_nsw/key/plants_se_nsw/Media/Html/entities/picris_angustifolia.htm

JanetRussell wrote:

29 May 2022

I am interested why the main photo in this sighting has been put up as Taraxacum aristum with the comment "no sightings' with no acknowledgement. Was somebody having two-bob each way?

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

29 May 2022

No Janet, I think it may be a glitch in the system

JanetRussell wrote:

29 May 2022

With that sighting, it was Roger F who gave me the ID. I will ask him if he will still stand by the ID.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

29 May 2022

Thanks Janet - re teh glitch programming pulls photos from first sightings when their are no photos in a species field guide - I think this is what happened here except it shouldn't have taken one from a suggestion

JanetRussell wrote:

29 May 2022

Thanks Michael - it was a bit tongue in cheek but I thought something must have gone wrong.

BettyDonWood wrote:

30 May 2022

I forwarded the sighting to Jackie Miles, who has done years of survey work in Kosciuszko NP. She wrote back: I think Janet's plant actually is the alpine/subalpine form of Picris angustifolia ssp merx-mulleri. I have similar photos from Kellys Plain where I do surveys with Keith McDougall every year for ox-eye daisy. He tells me that the grassland form is much more compact than the form found in forests, which I have also seen up in Kosi.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

30 May 2022

Thanks Betty - much appreciated

JanetRussell wrote:

30 May 2022

Thanks all for following this up. I appreciate it.

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Sighting information

1 - 3 Abundance
16 Dec 2012 12:06 PM Recorded on
JanetRussell Recorded by

Additional information

True In flower
10cm to 30cm Plant height

Species information

Picris angustifolia subsp. merxmuelleri Scientific name
Common name
Not Sensitive
Local native
Non-invasive or negligible
Up to 1831.39m Recorded at altitude
Machine learning
In flower
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Nearby sighting(s) of same species
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