Sighting 4643992
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| Agriophara (genus) | 3 Feb 2025 | kasiaaus |
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6 comments
kasiaaus
wrote:
3 Feb 2025
@ibaird Hi Ian. I think there are some problems with the definitions of some of the Agriophara species. Some seem to be doubled up and also many of them say "concealer moth" and they are under Curved-horn moths and not Oecophoridae like I think they should be. They should probably be moved to Oecophoridae. Can you have a look at this? Thanks.
donhe
wrote:
4 Feb 2025
AFD have transferred Stenomatinae to Depressariidae, so Agriophara is no longer in Oecophoridae.
kasiaaus
wrote:
4 Feb 2025
If that's the case Don and Ian, we should not call them "a concealer moth", I think. Also, before I wrote the previous message, I checked ALA and they are under Oecophoridae on ALA :-o
donhe
wrote:
4 Feb 2025
@ibaird : Lbh still has them in Oecophoridae. Which way should we go : ALA or AFD ?
ibaird
wrote:
5 Feb 2025
I understood our policy on NatureMapr (Moths) as we I believe we agreed to is to follow the AFD.
https://biodiversity.org.au/afd/taxa/Agriophara
However, if there is a consensus amongst moth moderators to place ttem in the subfamily Stenomatinae of Oecophoridae than well and good and I am happy to facilitate that, but I first would change the 'A Depressarid moth to 'A Concealer moth' before doing so. I have merged the former two groups of Agriophara (genus) in to one.
PS. I note that the authors of Moths in the ACT say calling Stenomatinae a full family (ie Stenomatidae) and therefore placing it within the superfamily Gelechioidea "is perhaps the least confusing course to take at present", see p. 99.
https://biodiversity.org.au/afd/taxa/Agriophara
However, if there is a consensus amongst moth moderators to place ttem in the subfamily Stenomatinae of Oecophoridae than well and good and I am happy to facilitate that, but I first would change the 'A Depressarid moth to 'A Concealer moth' before doing so. I have merged the former two groups of Agriophara (genus) in to one.
PS. I note that the authors of Moths in the ACT say calling Stenomatinae a full family (ie Stenomatidae) and therefore placing it within the superfamily Gelechioidea "is perhaps the least confusing course to take at present", see p. 99.
donhe
wrote:
6 Feb 2025
If Stenomatinae is a subfamily of Depressariidae, to what subfamily do al the moths currently in Depressariidae belong: Depressariinae ?
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kasiaaus NatureMapr Canberra & Southern Tablelands Curved-horn moths (all Gelechioidea except Oecophoridae) Moths (Lepidoptera) Insects
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