Austroargiolestes calcaris

Powdered Flatwing at QPRC LGA

Austroargiolestes calcaris at QPRC LGA - 16 Oct 2022
Austroargiolestes calcaris at QPRC LGA - 16 Oct 2022
Austroargiolestes calcaris at QPRC LGA - 16 Oct 2022
Austroargiolestes calcaris at QPRC LGA - 16 Oct 2022
Austroargiolestes calcaris at QPRC LGA - 16 Oct 2022
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Austroargiolestes calcaris 5 Mar 2024 HarveyPerkins
Austroargiolestes calcaris 4 Mar 2024 KorinneM
Unidentified 11 Jan 2023 arjay

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Does this help? Same photo but closer

13 comments

HarveyPerkins wrote:
   11 Jan 2023
Can you provide a larger image. This one is too small to be able to zoom in on the features that would help distinguish between options. Also if you have any from different angles.
arjay wrote:
   11 Jan 2023
I will check. Do I need to load it as a new sighting or is there some way to include in this one?
HarveyPerkins wrote:
   11 Jan 2023
You should be able to add additional photos through the Edit function. You've posted some interesting dragonflies and damselflies in this batch - it would be great to get more definitive IDs on them.
arjay wrote:
   11 Jan 2023
I thought they were all dragonflies since I had been told damsel flies fold their wings back together. There are others that I haven't sent yet. In general do you want more detail of the head and thorax? or other bits as well? Usually I just try to get the whole thing in the photo. Which of course means there is less detail overall. At least dragonflies keep moderately still when they land. Some also never land (as far as I can tell) and just cruise up and down shooing others away.
HarveyPerkins wrote:
   11 Jan 2023
Ah - yes! As a general rule, damselflies do hold their wings along the body, but not Flatwings (hence their name). In general, the parts of the body that are most useful for ID features are the thorax, particularly the side, and any patterning on the abdomen, particularly towards the tip. But it does vary for the different species. Generally a few good close shots from different angles should do the trick. Some closely related species may require more but you really need to know which ones need exactly what detail in those situations.
That said, the more appealing photos aesthetically tend to be those with a bit of background included. Which can also be useful for habitat clues which can also be useful for ID indications.
arjay wrote:
   12 Jan 2023
Harvey I have cropped the original image and hopefully you can now see what you need. The original is very good quality but is nearly 10 MB which is too big for me to upload. Let me know and I can do the same for the others.
KorinneM wrote:
   21 Feb 2024
Hi @arjay can you please provide a crop that shows the whole body?
arjay wrote:
   21 Feb 2024
As in head thorax and abdomen?
arjay wrote:
   21 Feb 2024
Three new pix showing head thorax and abdomen loaded.
arjay wrote:
   21 Feb 2024
Note that sighting 4463842 was hanging out quite close by. If that is of any help.
KorinneM wrote:
   21 Feb 2024
@HarveyPerkins does these extra photos give you enough to be able to go a particular way?
KorinneM wrote:
   4 Mar 2024
I'm suggesting Austroargiolestes calcaris as I think the third photo shows a ventral spur on the superior anal appendages. That combined with the strong pruinose on the synthothorax.
HarveyPerkins wrote:
   5 Mar 2024
It is now clearly not a Grey-chested Flatwing.

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  • 16 Oct 2022 01:49 PM Recorded on
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