Glycine tabacina

Variable Glycine at The Pinnacle

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Identification history

Glycine tabacina	9 Dec 2023	Tapirlord
Kennedia rubicunda	2 Mar 2022	MichaelMulvaney
Glycine tabacina	2 Mar 2022	sangio7
Hardenbergia violacea	2 Mar 2022	sangio7

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Only tiny but doing its best to promulgate the species against grassy competitors. What a great season!

10 comments

MichaelBedingfield wrote:

2 Mar 2022

Trifioliate leaves - not Hardenbergia violacea.

Tapirlord wrote:

2 Mar 2022

Could you provide an estimate of the plant's height, please?? I generally agree with Michael that it's not at all typical of Hardenbergia. But I'm really not sure what this could be, doesn't look at all like a glycine sp.

sangio7 wrote:

2 Mar 2022

It's very small, no more than about 15 cm long and perhaps 5 cm high. I thought it fit the description of G. tabacia in NSW Flora Online pretty well. However just before your comment came in I was having doubts because I forgot that G. tabacina is a scrambler and this one is definitely a twiner, as can be seen at the far left of shot. But is doesn't fir the description of G. clandestina. I look forward to any suggestions you have.

MichaelBedingfield wrote:

2 Mar 2022

It looks too big to be Glycine tabacina

Tapirlord wrote:

2 Mar 2022

Leaves also have a pointed tip, which rules out glycine, those seedpods are bringing me back to Hardenbergia even though it's certainly not typical, but to be honest i'm not sure. Hoping you have some inspiration @MichaelMulvaney :)

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Mar 2022

Jane Russell recorded this species in Aranda Bushland Kennedia rubicunda (Dusky Coral Pea)
Not sure how it got to the Pinnacle possibly may be local to the Canberra region or moved in a PCS vehicle or other vehicle moving between the two reserves.

Tapirlord wrote:

3 Mar 2022

Michael to the rescue! Thanks for the context, didn't know we had this species in the ACT :)

sangio7 wrote:

3 Mar 2022

Yes thanks Michael - what a memory! There are some small inconsistencies such as leaf size and hairiness and size of the pods, but some of that could just be that it's a very young plant or, perhaps, given that it is a nursery plant, it could be a hybrid (?).
As for how it got there, given that you have shown that Gang gangs eat just about anything and they were frequenting the the gardens of Hawker several streets off the reserve last year, I reckon birds are a possible source. There are mature eucalypts around where I found it. [As an aside, it works in reverse, too - I have a Cassinia quinquefaria in my garden that can only have been "planted" by birds and the most likely source is the reserve. I wish they'd planted a C. longifolia instead, which has much nicer flowers :-) ]

Tapirlord wrote:

9 Dec 2023

Pretty clearly Glycine tabacina upon review, the seed pods are not nearly hairy enough for it to be K.rubicunda (believe me I’m seeing a lot of that right now). Idk what my nonsense was with the sharped tipped leaves, that’s simply not true.

sangio7 wrote:

9 Dec 2023

Thanks Ciaran, good to clear this one up. Enjoy your travels.

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