Cincloramphus mathewsi

Rufous Songlark at Paddys River, ACT

Cincloramphus mathewsi at Paddys River, ACT - 29 Jan 2019
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Cincloramphus mathewsi 20 May 2019 natureguy
Cincloramphus mathewsi 24 Apr 2019 MichaelBedingfield
Cincloramphus mathewsi 20 Apr 2019 natureguy

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On the western side of the Murrumbidgee River, north of Tharwa.

13 comments

natureguy wrote:
   21 Apr 2019
Hi Michael this looks more like a Rufous Songlark. Natureguy
   21 Apr 2019
Ok Luke, thanks for the correction.
   24 Apr 2019
I wonder what the other Bird moderators think, Rufous Songlark or Australasian Pipit?
Illilanga wrote:
   24 Apr 2019
Haha, that is just opening it up for some red hot debate Michael. ;) I think it's an annoying brown bird! I would be more inclined to say Pipit.
   24 Apr 2019
I was trying to get out of having to make a call on this one! I do agree Rufous Songlark is a better fit, based on the lack of streaking and plainer face than I would expect for a pipit
Illilanga wrote:
   24 Apr 2019
Not a juvenile Ryu? ;)
   24 Apr 2019
I can't think of any birds that start out unstreaked and gain streaks as they get older... it seems to always be the other way round
SuziBond wrote:
   24 Apr 2019
I vote for Rufous Songlark :)
Christine wrote:
   24 Apr 2019
Australasian Pipits have a thin malar stripe, Rufous Songlarks have a rufous rump.
   24 Apr 2019
The following sighting of mine, of an Australian Pipit, confirmed by Chris, also lacks the malar stripe. Perhaps they are both Rufous Songlarks:
Intermediate size Anthus novaeseelandiae (Australasian Pipit) on 9 Nov 2014
Illilanga wrote:
   25 Apr 2019
Michael, I think that the other sighting is a Pipit as I can't see any rufous, the wing pattern is slightly different and it has striations on the chest. I now agree that this sighting is most likely a Rufous Songlark. Great comments everyone! Note to self: do not post the photos of the little brown bird you took without a telephoto lens (aka Sandra's Pipit Songlark). ;)
   12 May 2019
Is anyone in the new team game to confirm this one?
natureguy wrote:
   21 May 2019
Hi Michael

I confirmed this on the basis that there is no streaking on the chest.
It also appears (not very clear though) to have a rufous tinged rump.

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Species information

  • Cincloramphus mathewsi Scientific name
  • Rufous Songlark Common name
  • Not Sensitive
  • Local native
  • Non-invasive or negligible
  • Up to 754.7m Recorded at altitude
  • 70 images trained Machine learning
  • External link More information
  • Synonyms

    Cincloramphus (Maclennania) mathewsi Megalurus mathewsi
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