Cincloramphus mathewsi

Rufous Songlark at Paddys River, ACT

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13 comments

natureguy wrote:

   21 Apr 2019

Hi Michael this looks more like a Rufous Songlark. Natureguy

MichaelBedingfield wrote:

   21 Apr 2019

Ok Luke, thanks for the correction.

MichaelBedingfield wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

I wonder what the other Bird moderators think, Rufous Songlark or Australasian Pipit?

Illilanga wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

Haha, that is just opening it up for some red hot debate Michael. ;) I think it's an annoying brown bird! I would be more inclined to say Pipit.

ArcherCallaway wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

I was trying to get out of having to make a call on this one! I do agree Rufous Songlark is a better fit, based on the lack of streaking and plainer face than I would expect for a pipit

Illilanga wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

Not a juvenile Ryu? ;)

ArcherCallaway wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

I can't think of any birds that start out unstreaked and gain streaks as they get older... it seems to always be the other way round

SuziBond wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

I vote for Rufous Songlark :)

Christine wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

Australasian Pipits have a thin malar stripe, Rufous Songlarks have a rufous rump.

MichaelBedingfield wrote:

   24 Apr 2019

The following sighting of mine, of an Australian Pipit, confirmed by Chris, also lacks the malar stripe. Perhaps they are both Rufous Songlarks:
Anthus novaeseelandiae (Australasian Pipit) on 9 Nov 2014

Illilanga wrote:

   25 Apr 2019

Michael, I think that the other sighting is a Pipit as I can't see any rufous, the wing pattern is slightly different and it has striations on the chest. I now agree that this sighting is most likely a Rufous Songlark. Great comments everyone! Note to self: do not post the photos of the little brown bird you took without a telephoto lens (aka Sandra's Pipit Songlark). ;)

MichaelBedingfield wrote:

   12 May 2019

Is anyone in the new team game to confirm this one?

natureguy wrote:

   21 May 2019

Hi Michael

I confirmed this on the basis that there is no streaking on the chest.
It also appears (not very clear though) to have a rufous tinged rump.

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Location information

• Coordinates 149.065412-35.499986
• Altitude 580.2m
• Maps Point Hut to Tharwa
• Places Paddys River, ACT

Sighting information

• 1 Abundance
• 29 Jan 2019 08:32 PM Recorded on
• MichaelBedingfield Recorded by

• Collections

  Birds Intermediate size Other Birds MichaelBedingfield Canberra & Southern Tablelands NatureMapr

Species information

• Cincloramphus mathewsi Scientific name
• Rufous Songlark Common name
• Not Sensitive
• Local native
• Non-invasive or negligible
• Up to 754.7m Recorded at altitude
• 70 images trained Machine learning
• External link More information

• Synonyms

  Cincloramphus (Maclennania) mathewsi Megalurus mathewsi