Proteuxoa provisional species 2
A Noctuid moth at Monash, ACT
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| Proteuxoa provisional species 2 | ibaird | 16 Nov 2024 | |
| Proteuxoa provisional species 2 | WendyEM | 16 Nov 2024 | |
| Unverified | donhe | 7 Mar 2019 | |
| Proteuxoa nycteris | ibaird | 7 Mar 2019 | |
| Neumichtis nigerrima | jackQ | 2 Mar 2019 | |
| Neumichtis nigerrima | donhe | 2 Mar 2019 | |
| Unverified | jackQ | 2 Mar 2019 |
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9 comments
3 Mar 2019
Thanks Don I went back and took a few more photos to assist with the ID - sorry the lighting is not the best
7 Mar 2019
In doing a search on the ALA under Proteuxoa I found Thoracolopha nycteris, which looks a good match for this specimen, see
https://bie.ala.org.au/species/urn:lsid:biodiversity.org.au:afd.taxon:a1c0341b-a704-4efa-ab23-3280f5728342#gallery. Donald Hobern recorded Thoracolopha nycteris at Aranda in 2015.
And also at: https://bie.ala.org.au/search?q=Proteuxoa+nycteris
The genus Thoracolopha is recognised by the AFD as a synonym for Proteuxoa. On the ALA there are two records of P. nycteris from the Snowy River area.
https://bie.ala.org.au/species/urn:lsid:biodiversity.org.au:afd.taxon:a1c0341b-a704-4efa-ab23-3280f5728342#gallery. Donald Hobern recorded Thoracolopha nycteris at Aranda in 2015.
And also at: https://bie.ala.org.au/search?q=Proteuxoa+nycteris
The genus Thoracolopha is recognised by the AFD as a synonym for Proteuxoa. On the ALA there are two records of P. nycteris from the Snowy River area.
8 Mar 2019
Thanks Glenn and Ian for persistence with an ID. These Donald Hobern Proteuxoa photos are the closest match to what I saw. The first only labelled at genus level
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/5108243
The second is Proteuxoa Nycteris
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proteuxoa_nycteris_(23736032736).jpg
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proteuxoa_nycteris_(23736032736).jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/5108243
The second is Proteuxoa Nycteris
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proteuxoa_nycteris_(23736032736).jpg
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proteuxoa_nycteris_(23736032736).jpg
8 Mar 2019
A paper by Bobbie Hitchcock, Edward Edwards, & Andrew Mitchell, in Austral Entomology, 2 October 2017, moved it from Proteuxoa to Thoracolopha (although BOLD has both), namely
"Integrating dots and spots with COI sequence data reinstates Thoracolopha Turner, 1939
(Lepidoptera: Noctuidae), for 13 Australian species formerly in Proteuxoa Hampson, 1903"
see
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/aen.12293
"Integrating dots and spots with COI sequence data reinstates Thoracolopha Turner, 1939
(Lepidoptera: Noctuidae), for 13 Australian species formerly in Proteuxoa Hampson, 1903"
see
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/aen.12293
16 Nov 2024
Proteuxoa provisional species 2 & 3 & some 5 appear to be the same sp/group. I selected the 1st numerically
16 Nov 2024
We set up 'Proteuxoa provisional species 2' to be equivalent to MoV's 'Proteuxoa sp. (5)'. In their discussion of the group, MoV said several of the 'species' in that group had been identified as P. nycteris elsewhere, however they doubted that the type specimen of P. nycteris corresponded with those species. I note that the AFD does not recognise P. nycteris and iNaturalist recognises 'Thoracolopha nycteris (Proteuxoa nycteris)'. Moths shown there vary greatly from plain black examle through to light variants with strongly contrasting panels in the thorax. I'm not sure the 5th image here can be seen as equivalent to other 4 images posted here.
16 Nov 2024
re last image. Who knows. It is a similar shaped Noctuid to Proteuxoa. It is so hard to read in this case it is immaterial to ID
Location information
- Coordinates 149.090836-35.409006
- Altitude 598.6m
- Places Monash, ACT
Sighting information
- At least 1 Abundance
- 2 Mar 2019 10:35 PM Recorded on
- jackQ Recorded by
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- jackQ Canberra & Southern Tablelands NatureMapr Proteuxoa provisional species 2 Noctuoid moths (except Arctiinae) Moths (Lepidoptera) Insects
Species information
- Proteuxoa provisional species 2 Scientific name
- A Noctuid moth Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Up to 609.8m Recorded at altitude
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