Proteuxoa provisional species 2

A Noctuid moth at Monash, ACT

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Identification history

Proteuxoa provisional species 2	16 Nov 2024	ibaird
Proteuxoa provisional species 2	16 Nov 2024	WendyEM
Unidentified	7 Mar 2019	donhe
Proteuxoa nycteris	7 Mar 2019	ibaird
Neumichtis nigerrima	2 Mar 2019	jackQ
Neumichtis nigerrima	2 Mar 2019	donhe
Unidentified	2 Mar 2019	jackQ

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9 comments

jackQ wrote:

3 Mar 2019

Thanks Don I went back and took a few more photos to assist with the ID - sorry the lighting is not the best

GlennCocking wrote:

4 Mar 2019

I think this is more likely to be a Proteuxoa species

ibaird wrote:

7 Mar 2019

In doing a search on the ALA under Proteuxoa I found Thoracolopha nycteris, which looks a good match for this specimen, see
https://bie.ala.org.au/species/urn:lsid:biodiversity.org.au:afd.taxon:a1c0341b-a704-4efa-ab23-3280f5728342#gallery. Donald Hobern recorded Thoracolopha nycteris at Aranda in 2015.

And also at: https://bie.ala.org.au/search?q=Proteuxoa+nycteris
The genus Thoracolopha is recognised by the AFD as a synonym for Proteuxoa. On the ALA there are two records of P. nycteris from the Snowy River area.

jackQ wrote:

8 Mar 2019

Thanks Glenn and Ian for persistence with an ID. These Donald Hobern Proteuxoa photos are the closest match to what I saw. The first only labelled at genus level
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/5108243
The second is Proteuxoa Nycteris
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proteuxoa_nycteris_(23736032736).jpg

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proteuxoa_nycteris_(23736032736).jpg

donhe wrote:

8 Mar 2019

A paper by Bobbie Hitchcock, Edward Edwards, & Andrew Mitchell, in Austral Entomology, 2 October 2017, moved it from Proteuxoa to Thoracolopha (although BOLD has both), namely
"Integrating dots and spots with COI sequence data reinstates Thoracolopha Turner, 1939
(Lepidoptera: Noctuidae), for 13 Australian species formerly in Proteuxoa Hampson, 1903"
see
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/aen.12293

WendyEM wrote:

16 Nov 2024

Proteuxoa provisional species 2 & 3 & some 5 appear to be the same sp/group. I selected the 1st numerically

ibaird wrote:

16 Nov 2024

We set up 'Proteuxoa provisional species 2' to be equivalent to MoV's 'Proteuxoa sp. (5)'. In their discussion of the group, MoV said several of the 'species' in that group had been identified as P. nycteris elsewhere, however they doubted that the type specimen of P. nycteris corresponded with those species. I note that the AFD does not recognise P. nycteris and iNaturalist recognises 'Thoracolopha nycteris (Proteuxoa nycteris)'. Moths shown there vary greatly from plain black examle through to light variants with strongly contrasting panels in the thorax. I'm not sure the 5th image here can be seen as equivalent to other 4 images posted here.

WendyEM wrote:

16 Nov 2024

re last image. Who knows. It is a similar shaped Noctuid to Proteuxoa. It is so hard to read in this case it is immaterial to ID

ibaird wrote:

16 Nov 2024

jackQ I sugget deleting your fifth photo from this sighting.

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Location information

Coordinates 149.090836 -35.409006
Altitude 598.6m
Places Monash, ACT

Sighting information

1 - 3 Abundance
2 Mar 2019 10:35 PM Recorded on
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Insects Noctuoid moths (except Arctiinae) Moths (Lepidoptera) jackQ

Species information

Proteuxoa provisional species 2 Scientific name
A Noctuid moth Common name
Not Sensitive
Local native
Non-invasive or negligible
Up to 609.8m Recorded at altitude
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