A geometer moth at Paddys River, ACT
Identification history
| Eccymatoge fulvida | 20 Mar 2021 | donhe | ||
| Eccymatoge fulvida | 20 Mar 2021 | ibaird | ||
| Unverified | 18 Mar 2021 | ibaird | ||
| Selidosema agoraea | 18 Mar 2021 | kasiaaus | ||
| Praxis aterrima | 18 Mar 2021 | donhe | ||
| Unverified | 17 Mar 2021 | kasiaaus |
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6 comments
ibaird
wrote:
18 Mar 2021
I have found what I think a good match for this observation on iNaturalist, see here as Selidosema agoraea:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/71374927
However there seems to be an actve live debate as to whether the same species should be called Hypomecis agoraea or S. argoraea. The AFD favours H, argorea as does LBH. Moths of Victoria and iNaturalist seem to favour S. argorea although both seem to be used on iNaturalist. See the detail of this discussion here on iNaturalist:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/50667515
I have deviced to follow the AFD and LBH on this for now. Happy to revert to S. argoraea if that emerges as the local (Canberra based) consensus (or to another designation).
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/71374927
However there seems to be an actve live debate as to whether the same species should be called Hypomecis agoraea or S. argoraea. The AFD favours H, argorea as does LBH. Moths of Victoria and iNaturalist seem to favour S. argorea although both seem to be used on iNaturalist. See the detail of this discussion here on iNaturalist:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/50667515
I have deviced to follow the AFD and LBH on this for now. Happy to revert to S. argoraea if that emerges as the local (Canberra based) consensus (or to another designation).
kasiaaus
wrote:
18 Mar 2021
I agree that it looks like https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/71374927 i.e. Selidosema agoraea
donhe
wrote:
18 Mar 2021
Meyrick originally put it in Selidosema (1892), but McQuillan & Edwards removed it from that genus (1996), and Scoble put it in Hypomecis (1999).
ibaird
wrote:
20 Mar 2021
Despite our erudite discussion on H. agoraea I now think this observation is a better fit for Eccymatoge fulvida.
donhe
wrote:
20 Mar 2021
I agree. At least it has white spots in the right places, despite being the wrong colour and a dubious match to the lines.
ibaird
wrote:
20 Mar 2021
I have challenged two IDs which appeared as Selidesma argoraea on iNaturalist and said I think they are E. fulvida!
Location information
- Coordinates 148.908378-35.460008
- Altitude 787.0m
- Maps Tidbinbilla Nature Reserve
- Places Paddys River, ACT
Sighting information
- At least 1 Abundance
- 12 Mar 2021 10:24 PM Recorded on
- kasiaaus Recorded by
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Collections
Insects Geometer moths (Geometridae) Moths (Lepidoptera) kasiaaus Canberra & Southern Tablelands NatureMapr Eccymatoge fulvida
Additional information
- 25mm to 50mm Animal size
Species information
- Eccymatoge fulvida Scientific name
- A geometer moth Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Up to 787m Recorded at altitude
- External link More information
Record quality
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- More than one media file
- Verified by an expert moderator
- Nearby sighting(s) of same species
- GPS evidence of location
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