Coree, ACT
Identification history
| Pomaderris subcapitata | 26 Jun 2023 | Tapirlord | ||
| Pomaderris betulina | 2 Feb 2023 | MichaelMulvaney | ||
| Pomaderris pallida | 2 Feb 2023 | Tapirlord |
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Possibly a new location, a small stand of plants by the old quarry road
12 comments
MattM
wrote:
2 Feb 2023
Are you sure this one is P. pallida? The veins look very well defined and the leaves are quite large. Is that all juvenile foliage?
Tapirlord
wrote:
2 Feb 2023
Relatively confident, the good ol' plantnet key states that the veins should be visible on both leaf surfaces. It does however suggests that leaf width should be 3-6mm, which I'm thinking must be a typo as that would put it in the same range as Pomaderris phylicifolia subsp. ericoides, which looking at other images we have on CNM it clearly isn't. I think it matches other images that have already been identified (given that I don't think we can trust the key).
Tapirlord
wrote:
2 Feb 2023
This species was quite different to P.angustifolia & P.subcapitata growing nearby.
MichaelMulvaney
wrote:
2 Feb 2023
The rusty hairs doesn't fit with pallida and as Mathew states the leaves are too big and pallida tens to have a bluish appearance
natureguy
wrote:
2 Feb 2023
Agree this doesn't look like the pallida I've seen in the general area before, seems okay for betulina
Tapirlord
wrote:
2 Feb 2023
Alright, well i suspect i've got it wrong in that case. i had ruled out p.betulina based on the fact that the upper leaf surface wasn't glabrous, however the key that i'm looking at is suggesting that both local subsp may have stiff hairs on the upper leaf surface so i was wrong about that. i still feel odd about calling this p.betulina which i would normally associate as something like this Pomaderris betulina subsp. betulina (Birch Pomaderris)
Tapirlord
wrote:
2 Feb 2023
Also for some reason the CNM comments will not allow me to have capitals & hyperlinks in the same comment which is infuriating.
MattM
wrote:
3 Feb 2023
It's still possible this is P. pallida which has quite broad juvenile leaves, however I can't see the adult leaves in the images. P. velutina looks very similar to pallida with but with larger leaves. I collected some P. velutina and P. pallida and lodged with the herbarium, both confirmed, and also some juvenile foliage of one of the species. This is Dave Albrecht's response re juvenile foliage: "Identification of Pomaderris based on juvenile leaves is fraught. The leaves are broader than allowed for P.pallida and the leaf margins are not recurved. In these characters it is perhaps closer to P.velutina but I can’t be 100% confident."
natureguy
wrote:
3 Feb 2023
To be honest I got the immediate impression that this was not pallida. I have seen plenty of pallida and this one just doesn't give me any kind of pallida vibe. I guess the leaves may be broader in immature plants but these ones do seem exceptionally broad for pallida, plus other details Michael and others mentioned.
Location information
- Coordinates 148.961564-35.238106
- Altitude 451.7m
- Maps Woodstock Nature Reserve
- Places Coree, ACT
Sighting information
- 50 Abundance
- 6 Jan 2023 12:04 PM Recorded on
- Tapirlord Recorded by
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Collections
Plants Other Shrubs Tapirlord Canberra & Southern Tablelands NatureMapr
Additional information
- 1 metre to 5 metres Plant height
Species information
- Pomaderris subcapitata Scientific name
- Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Up to 1324.42m Recorded at altitude
- Machine learning
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In flower
- External link More information
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- More than one media file
- Verified by an expert moderator
- Nearby sighting(s) of same species
- GPS evidence of location
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