Perginae sp. (subfamily)
Unidentified pergine sawfly at Throsby, ACT
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| Perginae sp. (subfamily) | Jimbobo | 3 Jul 2025 | |
| Perga dorsalis | MichaelMulvaney | 29 Aug 2022 | |
| Perginae sp. (subfamily) | MatthewFrawley | 29 Aug 2022 |
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6 Jul 2025
Unfortunately until a thorough taxonomic analysis is done, on all the larvae of the 60 odd species in subfamily Perginae. Then subfamily level is the best identification. Any assumption of species level identification must be, at this stage, erroneous as there is too much doubt, too many unknowns. The only process to unravel this, is for all the species to be observed and recorded through all their life stages. Preferably a batch for each to allow and identify any variations. Then once a comparative taxonomic/morphological study is done on the results, will we conclusively understand if any of the species larvae have reliable key diagnostics that may allow valid identification.
If we continue to identify larvae(on an assumption) then we will perpetuate potential falsehoods. This can cause what I call a "online misidentification feedback loop". A situation where someone makes a guess/educated or otherwise; posts it online; another person looking for an id on a similar sees the first and so on and so forth.....Before long there are scores of similar looking organism all identified to species level. All done without any authoritative guide to prove or disprove.
If we continue to identify larvae(on an assumption) then we will perpetuate potential falsehoods. This can cause what I call a "online misidentification feedback loop". A situation where someone makes a guess/educated or otherwise; posts it online; another person looking for an id on a similar sees the first and so on and so forth.....Before long there are scores of similar looking organism all identified to species level. All done without any authoritative guide to prove or disprove.
Location information
- Coordinates 149.166004-35.171030
- Maps Mulligans Flat
- Places Throsby, ACT
Sighting information
- 16 - 100 Abundance
- 28 Aug 2022 02:36 PM Recorded on
- MatthewFrawley Recorded by
- Eucalyptus blakelyi Associated plant
- 12mm to 25mm Animal size
- Unknown Gender
- Larvae Breeding behaviour
Collections
- MatthewFrawley NatureMapr Canberra & Southern Tablelands Perginae sp. (subfamily) Sawflies (Hymenoptera, Symphyta) Insects
Species information
- Perginae sp. (subfamily) Scientific name
- Unidentified pergine sawfly Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Up to 1883m Recorded at altitude
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