Ciampa chordota

4 Orange Pasture-moth at Ainslie, ACT

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Identification history

Ciampa chordota	19 Aug 2022	michaelb
Ciampa chordota	18 Aug 2022	donhe
Ciampa chordota	17 Aug 2022	jb2602
Ardices glatignyi	22 Mar 2021	GlennCocking
Heliothinae (subfamily)	20 Mar 2021	jb2602

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19 comments

jb2602 wrote:

20 Mar 2021

Brown moth with white veins. Similar looking moths Heliocheilus cramboides and H. atrilinea are white with brown veins.

jb2602 wrote:

21 Mar 2021

Noctuidea?

GlennCocking wrote:

21 Mar 2021

This at first looked temptingly like one of the forms of Heliocheilus cramboides, but the wing pattern isn't quite right, the thorax pattern isn't close, and the antenna and palpi are quite different cf H. cramboides. An interesting moth!

jb2602 wrote:

21 Mar 2021

So where to look next Glenn? Is it a Tiger?

GlennCocking wrote:

22 Mar 2021

Yes, It may be a variant of Spilosoma glatignyi - antennae and palpi seem right, and you can see some longitudinally patterned specimens on iNAT.

jb2602 wrote:

22 Mar 2021

See https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/observations/46810434 and MOV CD glatignyi3.pdf

GlennCocking wrote:

22 Mar 2021

I've now seen two S.glatignyi specimens close to this, one from Tas and one WA

ibaird wrote:

22 Mar 2021

Mmm. I remain somewhat unconvinced. The thorax markings look quite different to the examples on Moths of Victoria. And no red Markings are visible at all here. I cannot see the antennae. The moth looks more elongate than I would expect for S. glatignyi.

donhe wrote:

22 Mar 2021

The veins look right for Spilosoma. The dorsal black stripe on the thorax is seen in S. glatignyi. Identification is difficult without an underside view.

jb2602 wrote:

22 Mar 2021

Sorry no ventral shot Don, I thought at the time that this one was going to be so easy!

GlennCocking wrote:

23 Mar 2021

An antenna and the palpi are visible in photos 2 and 3

ibaird wrote:

23 Mar 2021

OK, I see the antennae now. Probably a tiger moth but I'm not sure its S. glatignyi.

ibaird wrote:

23 Mar 2021

OK, I see the antennae now. Probably a tiger moth but I'm not sure its S. glatignyi.

jb2602 wrote:

16 Aug 2022

What about Ciampa chordota?

donhe wrote:

17 Aug 2022

I agree Ciampa chordota.

jb2602 wrote:

17 Aug 2022

See https://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=361853

donhe wrote:

18 Aug 2022

C. chordota needs to be in Geometridae, not Uncategorised species.

michaelb wrote:

19 Aug 2022

Hi Ian. I've recreated the species in Geometridae & deleted the species from Uncategorised.

GlennCocking wrote:

19 Aug 2022

ANIC has a bunch of Ciampa chordata specimens from Black Mountain in the 1950s and 60s (three of them on BOLD) but few from anywhere since then. One ALA record, from Vic. A very interesting record. The old set specimens, and this photo, aren't much orange.

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